February 13th, 2016 | E-mail interview by NINa | Submit for an interview | professional review | Read other Fabryka interviews

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NINa: Which acronym of the band name's meaning resonates with you best?

CS (Cien Soulwhore): They are two equally important acronyms... The first meaning - Mary Should've Had An Abortion - is to criticize religion and encourage people to do their own research about the real history of Christianity...
The Catholic Church started persecuting and killing non-believers as early as the 4th century. The slaughter of heretics, Jews, atheists, agnostics and pagans was supported by Vatican for over a thousand years.
The cult of Jesus has been used to create the false empire, built on slavery, torturers, murders and pedophilia scandals. Prevailing religions were implemented by way of violence, which makes the Christians at least as adept at mass murders as the Jihadists. Holy Inquisition murdered nine million women, worshipers of the Great Mother, accusing them of satanic witchcraft. The native population of what is now South America was literally massacred going from 80.000 to 10,000 people. They've destroyed the pagan cultures, dissipating the real legacy of first holidays. So if people cannot draw any conclusion from the life and death of their "messiah", then perhaps the "holy birth" propaganda was just a waste of time.

The second abbreviation stands for Maybe Some Humans Are Aliens - it refers to the "ancient astronaut hypothesis", which is based on the idea that intelligent extraterrestrial beings have visited the Earth and made contact with humans in antiquity and prehistory. Proponents of the ancient astronaut hypotheses often maintain that humans are either descendants or creations of extraterrestrial beings who landed on Earth thousands of years ago.
I think every modern astronaut would be hailed as a god or extraterrestrial by primitive society from the ancient times, and what if history repeats itself?
Erich von Däniken was a leading proponent of this hypothesis in the late 1960s and gained a large audience through the publication of his best-selling book Chariots of the Gods. Certain artifacts and monumental constructions have a more sophisticated technological ability to them than that which was available to the ancient cultures who constructed them. Von Däniken maintains that these artifacts were created either directly by extraterrestrial visitors or by humans who learned the necessary knowledge from said visitors. These include Stonehenge, Pumapunku, the Moai of Easter Island, the Great Pyramid of Giza, and the ancient Baghdad electric battery. But this is just a theory.

We want to push people's buttons and use these two different abbreviations to provoke thought... And maybe after this short interview I will come up with the 3rd meaning of MSHAA (laugh).

NINa: You make anti-religious music in a country where religious people act pre-maturely when anything related to religion is questioned or depicted differently than they were taught to be. Do you have a solution for banning organized religions entirely from dictating self-righteous lifestyle rules, causing difficulties to those of us who have chosen to cherish a more open-minded life instead?

CS: The links between religion, capitalism and politics have become inseparable, so the more those mainstream religions try to "fit in" to this new age of digital information and mental awareness, the more they plans will fail.
Religion very quickly lost its spirituality and became a cold business, morphing the Catholic Church into a devotional institution based more on hypocrisy and golden decorations than the actual faith.
Even in Poland the Catholic churches are continually losing their flock as, thanks to Internet, thousands of people realized how the simple human need for spirituality has been used to brainwash the poor, while the priests suck their money to build the empire or cover numerous child abuse scandals.
In fact, the whole Christianity is just a plagiarism.. a hearsay of a hearsay. The Old Testament is just a copy of Tora, with a few additional different stories. Most Christian holidays are actually Pagan holidays that Christians decided to borrow and then call their own.

The 'sun' was the first truly worshiped "Object or deity", on and around the 25th of December the sun would rise, but only up to the line of the horizon and then set again, and this was repeated for three days after which the sun would rise again in its normal way. It was known as the resurrection of the new Sun, now known as the 'Son of God' .
But in the period following the ancient times, the whole idea has mutated...
Every "indoctrinated lamb" believes that people are born sinners and if they don’t purify themselves they will soon be condemned to hell by God. I believe that if individuals are good just because they fear punishment and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. And this is why some day all current religions will collapse.
Present religions can't co-exist with modern science, free will and open-minded lifestyle. There is no solution.
In general, numerous surveys have revealed that the loss of support for the Christian religion is universal and accelerating. Dioceses across the world are experiencing big departures, and many are in a state of complete collapse for lack of interest.

On the other hand, currently we are seeing Muslim extremists act up in ways equally brutal to those employed by the Christian extremist hundred years ago, which proves every religion is just a psychological or/and lethal weapon - but doesn't it play into the hands of some organizations? In 2003 the United States invaded Iraq at a cost of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian lives. That war came after over a decade of U.S. sponsored sanctions that resulted in the deaths of more than a million Iraqis, including more than a half million children. The actual number of civilians killed by direct and indirect war violence is unknown, but likely much higher - in the hundreds of thousands.

The military abhors a vacuum, and there are always plenty of "terrorists" in countries rich in raw materials. As Edward Snowden said, most of them are financed by the government and it is obvious that mass surveillance won’t stop terrorism, they’re not going to stop the next attacks either, "because they’re not public safety programs. They’re spying programs". Also the whistle-blower website WikiLeaks posted what it said was an internal CIA report into the perception that the United States exports terrorism and all the hubbub over Syria is all about oil.
And it's really up to us to decide what a conspiracy theory is and isn't, people can do research by themselves instead of relaying on few channels...

NINa: All 12 songs on Dystopia bring about a very grim mood with no spark of light or hope, despite the upbeat music. Have you purposely skipped any controversial topic on this release? What still drives you mad that has not found its way to Dystopia?

CS: It's funny, because I don't consider this album as that dark... I came up with a concept idea of an imagined place in which everything is typically totalitarian or environmentally degraded, inspired by dystopian novels like The City of Light, 1924 or The Honeymoon Trip of Mr. Hamilton, 1928 by Mieczyslaw Smolarski (those two novels were allegedly plagiarized by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World). I found how many things refer to real life, but anyway, I'm sure there's a huge spark of light somewhere in there - even the knowledge itself can be a powerful torch against ignorance, we just need to resist in many departments of public sphere, to still have impact on politicians or global decision-making processes. Democracy means "voice of the people", so when it comes to health insurance, benefits, retirement age or economic migrations, we still have the power as a group of people, and those figureheads in the government actually work for us, they are there for us, and we need to watch their hands and not get fooled by media.
And of course there's a thousand more topics that have not found their way on this record, maybe they will be suitable for another concept album, but I'm only human and working also in a few other music projects, so I really suffer due to the fact that day and night have only 24 hours... (laugh)

Read also: MSHAA - Dystopia album review




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